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    • DCT Build Part XII - Build complete, pictures of final assembly, transmission cooler, and Viton seals

      Well, this has been a rather lengthy road to completion but the transmission is basically complete. The car was dropped off by SSP last month to Gintani who should have the motor in by the end of this week. The problem is SSP mounted their trans cooler in the location the heat exchanger for the supercharger needs to go so SSP will need to come to Gintani's facility to re-run their lines as the cooler will need to go in a different location. What took so long for this update? Well, we have been waiting, and waiting, and waiting for SSP to send us details on the Viton seals that required 3 redesigns but never received the information on why these seals are superior to the stock units.

      So, I decided to do my own research and here is what I came up with. These are the stock BMW seals used in the DCT. What is wrong with them exactly? We do not know other than they apparently are not up to the task:










      Here are the Viton seals which delayed the project by 3 months. Viton is a synthetic rubber used for seals, O-rings, things of that sort. Viton was likely used as it is less susceptible to decay and already used in BMW applications such as in VANOS. Viton has much higher temperature and chemical resistance characteristics than the stock seals. Here is what they look like:










      This is the DCT cooler that was mounted by SSP up front. This needs to be moved somewhere else as the supercharger heat exchanger will need to go there. This means SSP will need to come out and run their lines again checking all their fluids and so forth before tuning can take place:














      This is the final assembly. So, the transmission is built but it took about a year longer than estimated. I believe I was as patient as possible and hopefully this will all be wrapped up in December with a built motor, built transmission, a YSI, and a ton of horsepower.






































      This article was originally published in forum thread: M3 DCT Build Journal - World's First BMW DCT Build started by Sticky View original post
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      1. ultimateendz's Avatar
        ultimateendz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        Joseph, Joseph oh where do I start….
        From day one you have not paid 1 penny for anything on this transmission build. We have paid for everything, including all the transportation of your vehicle. I just wanted to get that out there, because you seem to always talk like you have spent so much money on transmission build.
        The real reason your car has spent so much time over at Gintani, is that you NEVER PAID your motor build on time.
        After that being said, your car was delivered back to you 1 ½ years ago. Until a week or so ago, you find it convenient to let me know that you may be having an issue with the transmission. My question, why always wait until the last minute?
        I like the part where you say you try to call, but cannot get a hold of us. Really Joseph, I answer my phone and emails 7 days a week.
        I have chosen to “bow out” of this project because of all of your lies. Not only your lies to me, but to Alex as well. I would have been more than willing to help you out with this project at any time. I am sure you will probably delete this post.
        SSP
        o boy
      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        WOW, great post by SSP. No nasty or overtly negative comments just straight facts. That changes my view of the entire build and confirms something I said quite some time ago. Just WOW
      1. fastgti69's Avatar
        fastgti69 -
        Damn, lets see how many pages this will get today.
      1. crazylegs's Avatar
        crazylegs -
        @JRCART
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      1. MisterEm's Avatar
        MisterEm -
        This should get interesting.
      1. Commanderwiggin's Avatar
        Commanderwiggin -
        Why couldn't this have been posted yesterday...weekend has been boring around here lol Click here to enlarge
      1. E90Company's Avatar
        E90Company -
        World War 3 incoming......
      1. Itsbrokeagain's Avatar
        Itsbrokeagain -
        oh boy....Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        Joseph, Joseph oh where do I start….
        From day one you have not paid 1 penny for anything on this transmission build. We have paid for everything, including all the transportation of your vehicle. I just wanted to get that out there, because you seem to always talk like you have spent so much money on transmission build.
        Let's see where I start.

        Yes, I offered to send you my transmission out of my brand new car when nobody else was sending you one. You practically begged me and I obliged despite finding things on forums telling me not to work with you. I trusted you.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        The real reason your car has spent so much time over at Gintani, is that you NEVER PAID your motor build on time.
        Oh now I'm going to bury you son. You want to go down this route? I have my invoices sitting right here.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        After that being said, your car was delivered back to you 1 ½ years ago. Until a week or so ago, you find it convenient to let me know that you may be having an issue with the transmission. My question, why always wait until the last minute?
        I'm having issues? Wait a sec, didn't someone else who installed your clutches also have issues? It's just me somehow?

        1 1/2 years ago? Yep, after you missed your target date by what, over a year? And you held onto my trans for a year longer than you should have? Then you demanded the entire car because "you needed it to finish" which you received and still took over a year longer than you were supposed to? Maybe time to post up your e-mails eh? Yep, it's happening.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        I like the part where you say you try to call, but cannot get a hold of us. Really Joseph, I answer my phone and emails 7 days a week.
        Then why have you been avoiding Alex's calls from Gintani? Weird how it seems to be selective.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by SSPKris Click here to enlarge
        I have chosen to “bow out” of this project because of all of your lies. Not only your lies to me, but to Alex as well. I would have been more than willing to help you out with this project at any time. I am sure you will probably delete this post.
        You are the biggest piece of trash I have ever dealt with in my life. What lies? What freaking lies?

        I called you and you jumped at the chance to get a transmission because nobody else was offering you one. Deal was I give you my trans to work on and you do the work. I held up my end. You even tried to force me to get you a Porsche PDK trans too, remember? I then have it taken out and sent to you that same week despite me apparently not paying for things yet it somehow gets to you? Weird. Then I have the motor taken out and Gintani working on it while you are supposed to be working on the trans. They sit around waiting for you for an extra year.

        Anyone can check the dates posted here of every update. I have sat around DEFENDING your incompetence. Your oil pan doesn't even fit correctly and you had the entire car, how do you screw that up?

        Additionally, you stated multiple times you would fly out and make sure everything worked correctly. Well, where are you Kris? Your product doesn't work. I even wrote in my latest e-mail to you I'm not pointing fingers I just want it fixed but instead you run away and throw me under the bus? After you wasted all my time and money? Yes, it costs money to store a car and pay for labor oddly enough. Additionally, you were supposed to send lines and fittings, where are they? Instead, I paid for them. So you didn't even hold up to the basics.

        Ya my car sitting around waiting for you for over a year doesn't cost me anything. It's just stored at a shop and worked on as a charity. You used me, did barely any work, wasted everyone's time, and now are running for cover after screwing up. You are basically a used car salesman I'm just glad you didn't sell off my parts.

        Now I'm pissed off and I'm going to get attorneys involved. Let's see how confident you are. Delete the post? Why, I'm going to embarrass you I have no need to.

        Who do you think you're playing with here? Now you're going find out.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        WOW, great post by SSP. No nasty or overtly negative comments just straight facts. That changes my view of the entire build and confirms something I said quite some time ago. Just WOW
        There are no facts in there there is no support for it. Watch when I bust out the facts not just a random forum post trying to cover my ass but you being you just immediately eat up any BS if its negative toward me. Sit on the sideline I'm not playing around here.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        And by the way, for anyone wondering, my motor build was paid for when I sold my original Gintani Stage 2+ kit BACK IN 2010. That money was taken directly from the buyer and given straight to Gintani which the buyer AND Gintani can both confirm. My motor build was paid for IN ADVANCE. Kris, when you pull things out of your ass you might as well want to do a forum search first: http://www.bimmerboost.com/showthrea...3-supercharger

        Anyone is welcome to contact the buyer who is on this forum. He paid in full over 3 years ago. Anyone is welcome to contact HRE where I bought my $7,000 rims to see how I paid, Evosport regarding how I paid, RPI regarding how I paid, Powerchip regarding how I paid, and Gintani as well. All cash in full.

        I also will have Gintani come on the forum to confirm and provide the real story of dealing with SSP. You are not getting away with this one this time Kris.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        As far as SSP is concerned, anyone wondering maybe why they moved?

        Well, seems they were having some problems and this is why I didn't want to send him my trans but had no choice: http://www.siouxfallsracing.com/Foru...p?f=33&t=38896

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Why did Kris miss the date by over a year? Because SSP was broke and getting their ass kicked in the GTR scene. Hence why he was begging for Porsche and BMW transmissions where there wasn't competition. He was just looking for rich people to take advantage of. I was dumb enough to trust him with my transmission and try to help him. Thanks so much Kris for appreciating that, class act you are:

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Just search the forum about Sioux Falls where Kris was forced to leave and pack it up to trying to rebrand himself now with "South Side Auto Salon"

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        Sticky -
        Kris, why don't you explain to everyone why you missed your target date by over a year? Well? That has something to do with my motor build? Why was my car AND my trans sitting with you for almost two years? Well?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        This guy has it down, don't trust Kris Gagnon. I did and got burned:

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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        This was me back in 2009 posting whether I should send him my car or not. I decided to anyway when I shouldn't have. He just wasted my time and since he didn't make money in the M3 market rather than do what is right he is going to try to throw me under the bus:

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        Oh no you don't, now the attorneys get involved you piece of trash. You want to see my money at play? You're going to.
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        Sticky -
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      1. Sledgehammer's Avatar
        Sledgehammer -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        There are no facts in there there is no support for it. Watch when I bust out the facts not just a random forum post trying to cover my ass but you being you just immediately eat up any BS if its negative toward me. Sit on the sideline I'm not playing around here.
        Sticky run the BS somewhere else... I'm more than fine with my comment!!!

        He was short and to the point. He didnt resort to childish name calling and the like. He made his point and was done. Now if you have an issue with people liking that tact then thats your issue not mine.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sledgehammer Click here to enlarge
        Sticky run the BS somewhere else... I'm more than fine with my comment!!!

        He was short and to the point. He didnt resort to childish name calling and the like. He made his point and was done. Now if you have an issue with people liking that tact then thats your issue not mine.
        Excuse me? You essentially believe nonsense without any support. And that's cool with you because it's short and to the point? So some short text is all you need because it's against me? You're a piece of trash too then. I'm not playing around here any longer.