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    • Comparison of MHP long tube and Renntech shorty M156 headers show poor weld and product quality from Renntech

      Pictures of these Renntech headers (it was confirmed these are in fact from Renntech Florida) were posted up by a BenzBoost user. We all know MHP makes a high quality product and that is seen here with what is clearly the MHP long tube setup. What is stated as the Renntech header appears to be a modified stock setup and clearly is not a long tube or race setup as we were told the customer asked for. An additional claim is that these are $8000 dollar headers from Renntech but in an article posted last week we showed the Renntech long tube headers which are ceramic coated for that price and they look nothing like these.

      We suggest you come to your own conclusion but there is no denying the terrible welds and simply poor quality of the shorty headers seen here vs. MHP. What one can definitively take away is the MHP long tube option is a solid one. We will wait on comments from Renntech and continue to state that Renntech is a high quality option. We also believe Renntech offers a warranty on exhaust pieces so if the owner was upset and this was a Renntech piece this issue would have been taken care of by quality customer service.















      * It was confirmed that these are in fact headers from Renntech Florida.




      This article was originally published in forum thread: RENNTECH versus MHP Headers Pics started by JBond View original post
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      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Hey, guys it's so easy to route or spoof IPs so let's keep the thread on topic and drop the alter ego witch hunt.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
        Same device? Try same network, and like I said, that means $#@!. It's about the content. jbond isn't an employee, and isn't me, so enjoy chasing your tail on this one and don't claim to know as fact what you do not.
        I got the facts. So you are admitting they are posting from the same network but not one of your employees? LOL...Ya, I just let people in off the street to use my company computers LMAO
      1. ecampbell's Avatar
        ecampbell -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
        I guess our definitions are different as far as gains, there are other ways to gain more power for less $ but again if you are dead set, by all means, you will gain some, just not enough for most to consider it cost effective. This is coming from a shop that ports these heads, so take it fwiw.

        The wrong part should have been directed toward Marty's comment about working the exhaust side of these engines.

        Yes I picked up where jbond left off. I port for a living, any questions?
        One question, how come my wife can not figure out which remote to use. Click here to enlarge
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        One question, how come my wife can not figure out which remote to use. Click here to enlarge
        Probably becuase you're like me and purchased the $250 Sony "smarthome" remote that can run everything in the house but too busy...I mean lazy to program it so I just have 4 or 5 remotes sitting on the table in the living room TV, Cable, Bluray, CD Player, iPod dock, XBox, etc. LOL
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by ecampbell Click here to enlarge
        One question, how come my wife can not figure out which remote to use. Click here to enlarge
        Because your tv is not in the kichen.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        Because your tv is not in the kichen.
        Be careful man, his wife is going to be in Vegas in two weeks.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Be careful man, his wife is going to be in Vegas in two weeks.
        I don't know what that means. If she wants to go next week, she can hang out with me.
      1. AMG4V's Avatar
        AMG4V -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
        Same device? Try same network, and like I said, that means $#@!. It's about the content. jbond isn't an employee, and isn't me, so enjoy chasing your tail on this one and don't claim to know as fact what you do not.
        Come on, admit it already, you are jbond.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        I am jbond.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        I don't know what that means. If she wants to go next week, she can hang out with me.
        It means i d be careful with the domestic "kitchen" comments LOL, todays women takes offense to that kinda stuff.
      1. mark@renntech's Avatar
        mark@renntech -
        Hello,

        My name is Mark and I am employed by RENNtech. One of my duties here involves handling issues such as this when they arise on a public forum. I was forwarded a link to this thread by a customer who caught wind of this on the forum and sent the link onto me. I have unfortunately never posted on the site and this first post is an effort to shed a little light on the matter.

        To start, my intentions with this post are to weed through any misconceptions or misinformation and in the end to both resolve the issue and help the customer. I have gone though our records here and the only customer in Texas (as mentioned in a previous post) which fits the description of these parts for this vehicle; was sold in June of 2009. These headers were sold as a package consisting of our ECU tune, the shorty headers and a limited slip differential to Turbochargers.com in Houston whom most likely did the installation. From then, there is no indication or record of the customer or shop contacting us regarding any problem with these headers. It is obvious that these headers have been repaired by someone and a very poor job done. If this is that set of RENNtech headers purchased through us or one of our dealers when they were new and a problem would have occurred; we would have done whatever necessary to take care of it. All of our products come with a warranty, including our headers and any problem or unlikely defects are repaired or replaced at no cost to the customer. Period. Based on the shear volume of exhaust components we sell, very rarely do we ever have a problem with any of our units. In an earlier post it is indicated that further exhaust modifications were preformed to the vehicle (such as the catalytic converters removed) with the possibility other modification done above and beyond that. This certainly may have contributed to the failure of the component to begin with. It was also mentioned repeatedly that this vehicle was at RENNtech for the installation. This insinuates that we were responsible for the installation and had prior knowledge of this customer’s issue. This is not the case. We stand by our products and strive to offer the highest customer service. As everyone knows, problems do arise at times and the difference between us and the competition is customer service. How you are treated before, during and well after the sale is what sets others apart and can make or break a company. After more than 20 years and hundreds of repeat customers; we continue to produce some of the finest performance products on the market and offer unmatched customer service. Since this thread is in regards to a cracked header, here is a perfect real world example of how we do business when problems arise on a matter similar to this-a thread located on mbworld regarding a cracked header:

        Title: RENNtech header cracked again??? in the W211 forum
        (sorry no direct link as a link requires rep. points)

        That is how we strive to take care of our customers even long after a warranty period ends or if a problem ever occurs. Without the forum finger pointing or ridiculous insinuations that a customer was to deal with the problem alone with no interest or assistance on our behalf, any member who has direct involvement with this is welcomed to contact me directly at 561-845-7888 x23 to answer any questions or resolve anything regarding this matter

        Thanks everyone for your time concerning this.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Welcome Mark Click here to enlarge

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        I am jbond.
        Hey, I'm Jbond. you are Sticky, same is true for DBFIU.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mark@renntech Click here to enlarge
        Hello,

        My name is Mark and I am employed by RENNtech. One of my duties here involves handling issues such as this when they arise on a public forum. I was forwarded a link to this thread by a customer who caught wind of this on the forum and sent the link onto me. I have unfortunately never posted on the site and this first post is an effort to shed a little light on the matter.

        To start, my intentions with this post are to weed through any misconceptions or misinformation and in the end to both resolve the issue and help the customer. I have gone though our records here and the only customer in Texas (as mentioned in a previous post) which fits the description of these parts for this vehicle; was sold in June of 2009. These headers were sold as a package consisting of our ECU tune, the shorty headers and a limited slip differential to Turbochargers.com in Houston whom most likely did the installation. From then, there is no indication or record of the customer or shop contacting us regarding any problem with these headers. It is obvious that these headers have been repaired by someone and a very poor job done. If this is that set of RENNtech headers purchased through us or one of our dealers when they were new and a problem would have occurred; we would have done whatever necessary to take care of it. All of our products come with a warranty, including our headers and any problem or unlikely defects are repaired or replaced at no cost to the customer. Period. Based on the shear volume of exhaust components we sell, very rarely do we ever have a problem with any of our units. In an earlier post it is indicated that further exhaust modifications were preformed to the vehicle (such as the catalytic converters removed) with the possibility other modification done above and beyond that. This certainly may have contributed to the failure of the component to begin with. It was also mentioned repeatedly that this vehicle was at RENNtech for the installation. This insinuates that we were responsible for the installation and had prior knowledge of this customer’s issue. This is not the case. We stand by our products and strive to offer the highest customer service. As everyone knows, problems do arise at times and the difference between us and the competition is customer service. How you are treated before, during and well after the sale is what sets others apart and can make or break a company. After more than 20 years and hundreds of repeat customers; we continue to produce some of the finest performance products on the market and offer unmatched customer service. Since this thread is in regards to a cracked header, here is a perfect real world example of how we do business when problems arise on a matter similar to this-a thread located on mbworld regarding a cracked header:

        Title: RENNtech header cracked again??? in the W211 forum
        (sorry no direct link as a link requires rep. points)

        That is how we strive to take care of our customers even long after a warranty period ends or if a problem ever occurs. Without the forum finger pointing or ridiculous insinuations that a customer was to deal with the problem alone with no interest or assistance on our behalf, any member who has direct involvement with this is welcomed to contact me directly at 561-845-7888 x23 to answer any questions or resolve anything regarding this matter

        Thanks everyone for your time concerning this.
        Very nice post...as I am sure you are aware these forums are full of ridiculous insinuations why should this place be any different LOL.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by 63Master Click here to enlarge
        have you ever installed headers? .......I doubt it

        have you ever tuned your car?.....propabley not

        all you do is hang out in this forum bothering people, and going back to your so called "Texas Ranchers". Really dude, Get a life.Click here to enlarge
        Look, you need to start backing up your statement.

        All I do is hang out in this forum? I wonder why. Are you seriously this dense?

        First you claimed the Renntech headers "perform" terrible according to you. Now you claim you know someone else that had this exact same thing happen which is a bit too much of a coincidence for me. Stop humping legs and post some concrete info.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by AMG4V Click here to enlarge
        You are dreaming, get that invoice, shouldn't be a problem for you since he is your friend, and you find out those are shorties for $3,000+
        or is 63Master actually Andy too???
        We're never going to see an invoice but how about he starts with just some sound logic or decent posts?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Ok, Andy, keep telling yourself that. Joseph, please compare my IP's to amgV4's IP and let Andy know we are not the same.
        You two are not the same person. IP's are vastly different as were registration email domains, times of browsing/posting, as well as posting style.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Have Joseph verify any IPs we have posted from EVER, not gonna match amg4v.
        I have 37 unique IP's on record for you, none of them match anyone else.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Be careful man, his wife is going to be in Vegas in two weeks.
        I don't think yomama is going to be in Vegas.

        I might not either now as my friend just bailed on me.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mark@renntech Click here to enlarge
        All of our products come with a warranty, including our headers and any problem or unlikely defects are repaired or replaced at no cost to the customer. Period.
        This is what I figured.

        Thank you Mark for your response, appreciated.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by mark@renntech Click here to enlarge
        (sorry no direct link as a link requires rep. points)
        My apologies but guest vendors are not allowed to link, period. I think our users are smart enough to figure it out though... most of them Click here to enlarge

        Thank you for posting your contact info as well so people can call and go directly the source. Thank you Mark.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Very nice post...as I am sure you are aware these forums are full of ridiculous insinuations why should this place be any different LOL.
        We are different.