• Insideline compares the BMW 1M Coupe to the Dodge Challenger SRT-8 and picks... the SRT-8 - Says 1M is basically a 135i

      All the 1M reviews up to this point may as well have been one long review blended together. Few in the automotive press have stood up and actually had the courage to criticize the 1M or look at it from a different perspective. That is, until now. This Insideline comparison will no doubt get fanboys panties twisted especially with comments such as these,

      "The 2011 BMW M Coupe? It starts, runs, accelerates and idles like a vacuum. Sure, it's an expensive, exacting vacuum built by a team of engineers who fully understand sucking. And in the end it's a masterful machine carefully calibrated for sucking precision. But it's so focused on sucking that it's virtually emotionless. Even its burnouts are antiseptic."

      Whoa, the huevos on Insideline! We didn't know they had it in them. Finally somebody who has the courage to stand up and honestly opine about the 1M instead of being a sheep. Insideline would go on to say the 1M is basically a 135 in disguise, ""Nah. Unless you drive it hard on the right road it's no different than a 135."

      We'll leave you with this, try not to riot gentlemen:

      Quote Originally Posted by InsideLine
      At the end of the breakfast buffet, you don't have to explain to anyone why you took the apple. Nobody cares about apples. The 2011 BMW 1 Series M Coupe is like that. It's the safe answer to a singular problem. It's extremely fast and immensely effective as a driving tool. And when you appreciate it on those terms, there are precious few cars as good.

      And that's precisely the problem. You'll need no terms to appreciate the 2011 Dodge Challenger SRT8. No racetrack, no mountain road, no measuring instruments, nothing but a heavy right foot. It's as far from a sterile expression of speed as can be created. It's loud, raw, unapologetically American and as quick as the M Coupe in the quarter-mile. It is speed and charisma.


      This article was originally published in forum thread: Insideline compares the BMW 1M Coupe to the Dodge Charger SRT-8 and picks... the Charger SRT-8 - Says 1M is basically a 135i started by Sticky View original post
      Comments 53 Comments
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Stupidest review EVER.

        IL reviewers hate BMW's, that's a fact. And with this article they showed they are capable of giving BULL$#@! another definition.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        Stupidest review EVER.

        IL reviewers hate BMW's, that's a fact. And with this article they showed they are capable of giving BULL$#@! another definition.
        Hehehe, and it begins.
      1. DavidV's Avatar
        DavidV -
        Mmm, no fuel consumption figures stated. Why should that be missing in the stats?
        Maybe Dodge does not have to comply to the new European fuel reduction percentages European cars have to.
        Sure, it's as fast in a straight line. But where's the fun in that?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DavidV Click here to enlarge
        Sure, it's as fast in a straight line. But where's the fun in that?
        They explained it. It's fun at all speeds whereas the 1M needs to be driven toward the limit to be exciting. They make an interesting point..

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DavidV Click here to enlarge
        Mmm, no fuel consumption figures stated. Why should that be missing in the stats?
        Fuel consumption figures are for pussies and Prius owners, which coincidentally, are synonyms.
      1. DavidV's Avatar
        DavidV -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        They explained it. It's fun at all speeds whereas the 1M needs to be driven toward the limit to be exciting. They make an interesting point..



        Fuel consumption figures are for pussies and Prius owners, which coincidentally, are synonyms.
        Not true for european car manufacturers.
        Why do you think Aston Martin, and even Lotus now, comes with a stupid little towncar.
        It is to suppress overall CO2 figures. They are obliged to reduce CO2 emissions before 2015, and even stricter rules apply for 2018.
        Maybe the Charger is fun at all speeds because f its deathtrappyness, whereas the 1M makes driving very easy...
      1. Scourge82's Avatar
        Scourge82 -
        I'm confused, how can you compare a 1M to a Challenger SRT-8?Click here to enlarge The 2 are completely different cars, one's a mashed up tuned sport compact and the other is a boat with a hemi engine.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DavidV Click here to enlarge
        Not true for european car manufacturers.
        Why do you think Aston Martin, and even Lotus now, comes with a stupid little towncar.
        It is to suppress overall CO2 figures. They are obliged to reduce CO2 emissions before 2015, and even stricter rules apply for 2018.
        Maybe the Charger is fun at all speeds because f its deathtrappyness, whereas the 1M makes driving very easy...
        I absolutely agree with you, I'm just messing around.

        I'm really loving the board as of late.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
        I'm confused, how can you compare a 1M to a Challenger SRT-8?Click here to enlarge The 2 are completely different cars, one's a mashed up tuned sport compact and the other is a boat with a hemi engine.
        That is what makes the comparison so awesome.

        They are both about $50k though so price was it makes sense. They also are both performance cars with 4 seats, front engine, manual, and rear wheel drive.

        Pretty cool comparison rather than the typical junk.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        " a $50000 dollars question that you should ask ", even the article is BS.

        How about a $70K comparison between RangeRover and Lotus Exige cup? both are cars, both have wheels, steering wheel, pedals etc...
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        By their definition the M3 would be just a 335i as well.
      1. Scourge82's Avatar
        Scourge82 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        By their definition the M3 would be just a 335i as well.
        I don't think that could be said, the M3 other than the body is completely different from the 335i. You can't get a V8 for the 335i, but you get a N54 in both the 1M and 135i.
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Scourge82 Click here to enlarge
        I don't think that could be said, the M3 other than the body is completely different from the 335i. You can't get a V8 for the 335i, but you get a N54 in both the 1M and 135i.
        I disagree. 1M has a whole new suspension, new brakes, new steering etc... and it deserves to have a different name.

        Swapping engines isn't as hard as changing the suspension due the different wheel aches and lack of space. there are some V8 1-series out there, but have you seen a 1-Series with a new suspension system?
      1. Scourge82's Avatar
        Scourge82 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        I disagree. 1M has a whole new suspension, new brakes, new steering etc... and it deserves to have a different name.

        Swapping engines isn't as hard as changing the suspension due the different wheel aches and lack of space. there are some V8 1-series out there, but have you seen a 1-Series with a new suspension system?
        Yeah but for the M3 they designed it's parts from the ground up, with the 1M, they just tuned up the engine, slapped on the M3 brakes, and added the rear suspension of the M3.

        Let's just agree to disagree on what the 1M is. Sticky has already been driven mad by the 1M discussion so far, we should give him a breakClick here to enlarge
      1. Sorena's Avatar
        Sorena -
        He's wrong as always, and I'm right as usual.
      1. 1cleanAMG's Avatar
        1cleanAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sorena Click here to enlarge
        He's wrong as always, and I'm right as usual.
        this.

        He thinks he is right because he writes longer paragraphs Click here to enlarge
      1. KB's Avatar
        KB -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        They explained it. It's fun at all speeds whereas the 1M needs to be driven toward the limit to be exciting. They make an interesting point..
        Couldn't the same be said about the M3? I'm sure it's not too exciting putting around town at 3000 RPMs.
      1. snavekd's Avatar
        snavekd -
        Its a Challenger, not charger.

        I was looking at a Charger SRT8 and a 335 when I got tired of my last car. Not that the srt8 isn't bad, but seemed more like a high school kid's "see how loud my car is" type. The ease of a tune/meth mod over the Kenne Bell is what swayed me.
      1. 654's Avatar
        654 -
        Right, BMW is 5MPH faster in slalom and these idiots who assumably drive straight only get the boat as a winner...probably based on its noise which these kids think is positive rather than disturbing.
      1. fundahl's Avatar
        fundahl -
        Sticky, the title is wrong.....


        Lol, it's Challenger SRT-8......


        Have you guys driven one? They aren't fast.... just like the 1M in a straight line. They are boring as well, like a big boat.

        A C5 z06 is even much better than that....... Wow, I've never seen a fairly large, lazy V8 stuffed in a front-heavy chassis before..... Click here to enlarge


        Sure, go ahead and buy one if you want to get raped at autocross or any track. And I prefer the sound of an opened up boosted I-6 over that gargley, low-revving Hemi.

        Obviously you can make a lot of power with the Challenger. But trust me, I've driven one of those stock 6MT, and also a G8 GXP to compare, and they just feel like fat, slower versions of a Corvette.....

        Even the new 5.0 didn't impress me like the 135i.... not sure why everyone makes a big deal about them.....


        When we dive into the aftermarket it can go so many different ways..... so let's not argue about that.


        But hey, whatever, it's their opinion, I'd take a 1M or even a 135i over a Challenger SRT-8 any day.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by FR305 Click here to enlarge
        By their definition the M3 would be just a 335i as well.
        Uh... no?