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    • Jalopnik picks up on BenzBoost story regarding Evosport and Evosport threatens legal action

      One of the largest auto blogs on the net, Jalopnik, has been monitoring our story with Evosport. Things have gotten very heated as of late when Evosport had their attorney, Todd Serota, threaten my father as well as myself with legal action. BenzBoost was given a deadline and told to pull down the articles, looks like we missed it.

      BenzBoost finds Evosport's tactics of covering this story up and threatening us with legal action just rather sad. Instead of going about this professionally, Evosport has been closing threads on MBworld and deleting any mention of it. Since they can not do that on BenzBoost, they have sent their attack dog lawyers after us in an attempt to control things here as well.

      We will not be intimidated or budge from doing what is in our users and the consumers best interest. Consumer advocacy is something we need more of, not less. Mr. Serota, people like you are the problem in this country trying to keep the truth hidden and not having the integrity to do what is right. BenzBoost had the courage to reveal the details of what was taking place and did so accurately. Amazingly, you reached the wrong conclusion but we would not be surprised you would jump to whatever conclusion your clients would want you to jump to.

      You have done the opposite of quieting this down, only making major blogs take notice of it. Aren't you only digging the hole deeper for your own clients? BenzBoost is not afraid of you and not all that impressed with your scare tactics. Plus, aren't you a patent lawyer? Maybe you should stick to that as we can write a much harsher letter than what you provided.

      Also, threatening my 73 old year old father is flat out despicable. We are saddened that Evosport seems to endorse harassing senior and retired family members over forum posts they can not control. This does not reflect well on any company and does not reflect well on you as an attorney. If people wonder why attorneys get a bad name, it is due to actions such as this.

      At this point, it should be clear to you it is impossible to get this story removed as you have now served to propagate it. Well done Evosport and well done Mr. Serota. In our opinion, you have completely mis-managed this situation. Good luck prosecuting the entire internet, it does not seem the Evosport budget will allow for it.

      We have posted the legal documents Jalopnik obtained aimed at BenzBoost here, you can all review them for yourselves and see the lengths Evosport is willing to go to keep the truth from users on MBworld as well as consumers. BenzBoost will continue to do investigative reporting in the best interest of our users and all individuals in the German automotive performance industry.




      This article was originally published in forum thread: Warning to Mercedes Enthusiasts! Evosport hundreds of thousands in debt, not delivering parts started by Sticky View original post
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      1. Eirebenz's Avatar
        Eirebenz -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JBond Click here to enlarge
        I posted initially, I along with many others were asked by JRCART via friends to bring light to his situation on MBW....

        ....So I did my part posting on MBW, asking about his car as we were guided to do per JRCART's requests....
        Hmmmmm....... the full picture is beginning to emerge.

        That said, I think there is some merit to LZH's point - there's probably no need to write some of the personal comments (although it is understandable given the effort some people have gone to here).

        You've obviously contributed significantly to raising the issue on MBW and here, and you've done everything you can at this stage. I'm sure plenty of customers on MBW and elsewhere are thanking you, Sticky, and others for what y'all have done.

        It's probably safe to say that Evosport et al. have instructed / asked many of those who were originally 'vocal' to tone down their rhetoric.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        Hmmmmm....... the full picture is beginning to emerge.

        That said, I think there is some merit to LZH's point - there's probably no need to write some of the personal comments (although it is understandable given the effort some people have gone to here).

        You've obviously contributed significantly to raising the issue on MBW and here, and you've done everything you can at this stage. I'm sure plenty of customers on MBW and elsewhere are thanking you, Sticky, and others for what y'all have done.

        It's probably safe to say that Evosport et al. have instructed / asked many of those who were originally 'vocal' to tone down their rhetoric.
        Sure - but how? threatening legal action like they did Sticky ?? I find that hard to believe that anyone would get treated like crap, voice their opinion and then quiet down after telling their friends a particular company screwed them. I think the more likely situation is that there are just a lot of people out there who don't like to make negative posts and stay quiet while others do all the work for them.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        I find that hard to believe.
        I think it was the spinach and chickpeas.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        Hmmmmm....... the full picture is beginning to emerge.

        That said, I think there is some merit to LZH's point - there's probably no need to write some of the personal comments (although it is understandable given the effort some people have gone to here).
        It's ok. I really didn't take them personal. It was more than amusing that someone would bash my reading comprehension and writing skills considering that's exactly what I do for a living.
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Sure - but how? threatening legal action like they did Sticky ?? I find that hard to believe that anyone would get treated like crap, voice their opinion and then quiet down after telling their friends a particular company screwed them.
        I don't. There are probably tons of customers that would gag themselves for a discount of some sort.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Sure - but how? threatening legal action like they did Sticky ?? I find that hard to believe that anyone would get treated like crap, voice their opinion and then quiet down after telling their friends a particular company screwed them. I think the more likely situation is that there are just a lot of people out there who don't like to make negative posts and stay quiet while others do all the work for them.
        I don't know how they are doing it but it may be as simple as keep quiet and you will get your stuff.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        I don't. There are probably tons of customers that would gag themselves for a discount of some sort.
        This is likely true, once it comes to money people don't care about what is right. Most just look out for themselves and what they can get.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Good point...never considered that. But I guess I'm not wired that way. I do what is right ,over making/saving a few bucks
      1. JBond's Avatar
        JBond -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Okay, so in short you have a bone to pick with him - check, noted. Moving on....next order of business. Another MBW thread I specifically asked the mod about preferential treatment, and he refuses to even acknowledge my question:

        http://www.mbworld.org/forums/c63-am...s-missing.html

        Sorry...just thought I'd change it up a bit...Sticky feel free to move this post to another thread if it's appropriate .
        I have a bone to pick with anyone that cries wolf and then pulls a U-turn, as you do as well since you picked up on the change in "tone". I have a bone to pick with anyone that posts contradictory info in the same thread let alone same forum or on the net in general. I have a bone to pick with bullshitters in general (where the vids at?) I also have a problem with mbworld.org and it's censoring of evosports issues, any other vendor would not receive the same preferential treatment.

        JRCART is getting what he asked for which was attention brought to his situation, he asked for it, and now he gets it. The situation he helped make everyone aware of is still ongoing and cannot just be turned-off. Both Jim and Rich need to realize this is as much if not more their doing than anyone else's, and for either to call anyone that supported them from the point where they literally asked for help a $#@! or a douchebag shows exactly the type of character JRCART has.

        I can go on about JRCART but unless brought up again I'd also prefer to move on to something worth while discussing.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        But I guess I'm not wired that way. I do what is right ,over making/saving a few bucks
        I'm not wired that way either which I guess is why this is up in the first place, eh? Then again, the MBW vendor extortion plan sure seems to be more lucrative. Pay us, and you will get protection unless it does not server our interests (MHP).
      1. JBond's Avatar
        JBond -
        Last JRCART post unless prompted, I predict they Jim or Rich will be posting on MBW again in the next 12 mos as if nothing happened.

        Any takers?
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Good point...never considered that. But I guess I'm not wired that way. I do what is right ,over making/saving a few bucks
        Me too....which is why I have been posting so much about this, even though it does not affect me whatsoever.
      1. c32AMG-DTM's Avatar
        c32AMG-DTM -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        It's probably safe to say that Evosport et al. have instructed / asked many of those who were originally 'vocal' to tone down their rhetoric.
        That does seem plausible.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Sure - but how? threatening legal action like they did Sticky ?? I find that hard to believe that anyone would get treated like crap, voice their opinion and then quiet down after telling their friends a particular company screwed them. I think the more likely situation is that there are just a lot of people out there who don't like to make negative posts and stay quiet while others do all the work for them.
        Doesn't have to be that complex. Human psychology's a funny thing... it could be as simple as guilt-tripping folks into lowering their (public) vitriol.

        JRCART had an avatar with evosport's corporate logo and "FAIL" sprayed over the image, for instance. Hard to misinterpret that message... now it's gone.

        Maybe, completely on his own, he deemed it and the related tone of his posts to be inappropriate after some self-reflection. Or, perhaps, a conversation with evosport turned to "hey, Jim, we've worked together a long time, and we're doing everything we can to make things right to you at this point... but, please, as a favor, you're killing us with all the bandwagon bashing on the forums. It'd be greatly appreciated if you'd just think about it, okay? Do whatever you feel is right."

        Bottomline, JRCART has taken the most obvious 180* here, but he's saying it's because they've now gotten him to "pretty much" everything previously agreed upon. Good enough for me... but you'd have to be blind not to see the overt flip-flop in his tone the last week or so. So, maybe he's a "forgive and forget" kinda guy... not everyone is, nor understands that. No biggie.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by c32AMG-DTM Click here to enlarge
        That does seem plausible.



        Doesn't have to be that complex. Human psychology's a funny thing... it could be as simple as guilt-tripping folks into lowering their (public) vitriol.

        JRCART had an avatar with evosport's corporate logo and "FAIL" sprayed over the image, for instance. Hard to misinterpret that message... now it's gone.

        Maybe, completely on his own, he deemed it and the related tone of his posts to be inappropriate after some self-reflection. Or, perhaps, a conversation with evosport turned to "hey, Jim, we've worked together a long time, and we're doing everything we can to make things right to you at this point... but, please, as a favor, you're killing us with all the bandwagon bashing on the forums. It'd be greatly appreciated if you'd just think about it, okay? Do whatever you feel is right."

        Bottomline, JRCART has taken the most obvious 180* here, but he's saying it's because they've now gotten him to "pretty much" everything previously agreed upon. Good enough for me... but you'd have to be blind not to see the overt flip-flop in his tone the last week or so. So, maybe he's a "forgive and forget" kinda guy... not everyone is, nor understands that. No biggie.
        Great post. :thumbs-up:
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Check this out, seems I'm a hot topic as is BenzBoost in MBworld's private staff forum. They sure are threatened and they are paying close attention to BenzBoost, that's sweet. I just happened to be browsing the front page and noticed this right on there. Seems their classifieds plugin pulls threads from sections not just in the classifieds section. Might want to work on that fellas Click here to enlarge If only a mod had the courage to print that thread out, eh?

      1. Karo's Avatar
        Karo -
        I just saw it. I wish I can see what it's about.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Karo Click here to enlarge
        I just saw it. I wish I can see what it's about.
        Sure would be nice to a mod there right about now and view that thread.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        Its amazing that in the general population forums on mbw,benzboost is censored..however it appears when the mods are discussing benzboost in private where the rest of the members cannot see it,its uncensored. That site is run by a bunch of crybaby $#@!s.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        Its amazing that in the general population forums on mbw,benzboost is censored..however it appears when the mods are discussing benzboost in private where the rest of the members cannot see it,its uncensored. That site is run by a bunch of crybaby $#@!s.
        It's funny as hell, huh?

        They are discussing it using zeros instead of o's though. So, they have try to get around their own censors, it's too funny.
      1. oldgixxer's Avatar
        oldgixxer -
        oh $#@!,didnt even notice that lol...see,doesnt take much at all for me to jump on the MBW-hate bandwagonClick here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by oldgixxer Click here to enlarge
        Its amazing that in the general population forums on mbw,benzboost is censored..however it appears when the mods are discussing benzboost in private where the rest of the members cannot see it,its uncensored. That site is run by a bunch of crybaby $#@!s.
        See, check it out, if you search for BenzB00st instead of BenzBoost this is what you get: