• Jalopnik picks up on BenzBoost story regarding Evosport and Evosport threatens legal action

      One of the largest auto blogs on the net, Jalopnik, has been monitoring our story with Evosport. Things have gotten very heated as of late when Evosport had their attorney, Todd Serota, threaten my father as well as myself with legal action. BenzBoost was given a deadline and told to pull down the articles, looks like we missed it.

      BenzBoost finds Evosport's tactics of covering this story up and threatening us with legal action just rather sad. Instead of going about this professionally, Evosport has been closing threads on MBworld and deleting any mention of it. Since they can not do that on BenzBoost, they have sent their attack dog lawyers after us in an attempt to control things here as well.

      We will not be intimidated or budge from doing what is in our users and the consumers best interest. Consumer advocacy is something we need more of, not less. Mr. Serota, people like you are the problem in this country trying to keep the truth hidden and not having the integrity to do what is right. BenzBoost had the courage to reveal the details of what was taking place and did so accurately. Amazingly, you reached the wrong conclusion but we would not be surprised you would jump to whatever conclusion your clients would want you to jump to.

      You have done the opposite of quieting this down, only making major blogs take notice of it. Aren't you only digging the hole deeper for your own clients? BenzBoost is not afraid of you and not all that impressed with your scare tactics. Plus, aren't you a patent lawyer? Maybe you should stick to that as we can write a much harsher letter than what you provided.

      Also, threatening my 73 old year old father is flat out despicable. We are saddened that Evosport seems to endorse harassing senior and retired family members over forum posts they can not control. This does not reflect well on any company and does not reflect well on you as an attorney. If people wonder why attorneys get a bad name, it is due to actions such as this.

      At this point, it should be clear to you it is impossible to get this story removed as you have now served to propagate it. Well done Evosport and well done Mr. Serota. In our opinion, you have completely mis-managed this situation. Good luck prosecuting the entire internet, it does not seem the Evosport budget will allow for it.

      We have posted the legal documents Jalopnik obtained aimed at BenzBoost here, you can all review them for yourselves and see the lengths Evosport is willing to go to keep the truth from users on MBworld as well as consumers. BenzBoost will continue to do investigative reporting in the best interest of our users and all individuals in the German automotive performance industry.



      This article was originally published in forum thread: Warning to Mercedes Enthusiasts! Evosport hundreds of thousands in debt, not delivering parts started by Sticky View original post
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      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        so, i have a question:


        Guy A tell guy B something, Guy C sues guy B for saying it. doesnt hearsay turn to fact when guy A is called upon to confirm both what happened and what was said?
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LostMarine Click here to enlarge
        so, i have a question:


        Guy A tell guy B something, Guy C sues guy B for saying it. doesnt hearsay turn to fact when guy A is called upon to confirm both what happened and what was said?
        Rules of evidence are complex and not clear cut. Can't just say Guy A can testify to it, because it has to meet relevancy requirement before anything else, but there's limine procedure that comes into play concerning evidence before even starting the trial.

        I don't even know why this is being discussed.

        Just about every body shop inflates the amount of labor repair cost to the insurance company. If you want to call that insurance fraud, then yes, insurance fraud is a standard practice in the industry.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        just curious is all. thanks
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        I'd like to start a new poll on Benz280SL's identity....

        Todd Serota OR Christopher Mears

        Either way, the intention seems to be to cause problems.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Benz280SL Click here to enlarge
        Well, just for fun, lets pretend we are in court....and you are asked to produce evidence that establishes the clams made by YOU as FACT. I gather that you are prepared to do so and look forward to that opportunity?
        How about just for fun we don't? What, we are playing mock court now online? Let me guess, you want to play dress up as the judge?

        I gather there is more than enough evidence just with what I have to prove JRCART is telling the truth. I have text messages from JRCART, as well as others, regarding the insurance issues plus he told me directly. You want me to go ahead and post everything up as if this would go to court? LOL, yes, why not just reveal everything in case that happens right, you would love that?

        I stated it was a fact I was told by JRCART about the events and relayed those events which he supported. If the events are true then I have nothing to worry about right? Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        I'd like to start a new poll on Benz280SL's identity....

        Todd Serota OR Christopher Mears

        Either way, the intention seems to be to cause problems.
        Who cares, guy isn't even doing a good job. He wants to play online court? Why doesn't he just ask JRCART if he is so curious?
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Who cares, guy isn't even doing a good job. He wants to play online court? Why doesn't he just ask JRCART if he is so curious?
        I love how he's so focused on the insurance statement from JRCART. Pretty easy to subpoena insurance records anyway.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Gentlemen, it's as simple as this. I called JRCART to ask about the insurance situation and he said that the situation changed from what he thought it initially was. At first he thought from the pictures the cost was inflated and when he looked it all over the $20k or so seemed to be accurate. So, I am updating the thread and initial post in the interest of accuracy to reflect this change.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        I love how he's so focused on the insurance statement from JRCART. Pretty easy to subpoena insurance records anyway.
        Exactly... as well as text message records.
      1. LostMarine's Avatar
        LostMarine -
        gotta be careful with that back-tracing stuff.. the consequences will never be the same
      1. Eirebenz's Avatar
        Eirebenz -
        I think it is absolutely despicable (yet predicable) what is going on of late regarding this fiasco:

        Evosport and/or supporters (be that legal or otherwise) have just about succeeded in turning this story around 180 degrees to make them look like the victim. Shady (yet masterful) spin to say the least. If they end up going bust, they should definitely pursue a career in politics.

        Over the past week or so, it has become very clear that the veracity of the claims against Evosport have waned (not from Sticky though). I predicted that would be the case, and it is not surprising at all.
        It doesn't take a brilliant lawyer like Benz280SL to see that certain customers have been instructed to hush-up if they want to get the service/products they already paid for.

        Lest muppets like Benz280SL spew nonsensical legalese in response to this post: do yourself a favor and read this thread in its entirety. If you do so, you'll realize that everything Sticky purports has been verified by jrcart or others in the past. That those who are owed something by Evosport are not as 'vocal' as they were 1 week ago is inconsequential.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        Lest muppets like Benz280SL spew nonsensical legalese in response to this post: do yourself a favor and read this thread in its entirety. If you do so, you'll realize that everything Sticky purports has been verified by jrcart or others in the past. That those who are owed something by Evosport are not as 'vocal' as they were 1 week ago is inconsequential.
        Exactly. And at the time of posting everything was 100% correct and now they are trying to do the right thing (finally) and clearly some customers are happy to just get what is owed to them and be quiet. That is fine, ultimately, this thread spurred customers/users getting what was owed to them and I am happy with that. Unfortunate that now they are hushing up so to speak but that is how some people are.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Not only are they not as vocal, but there has been at least one post of someone being told that their pulley is shipping. I still call bull$#@! until that user posts a $#@!ing picture of the pulley. Regardless, Evosport STILL breached their contract by failing to perform, i.e., deliver the product within a reasonable time. I'm assuming customers were not told they would receive product whenever Evosport decided to ship it.
      1. Yomama69's Avatar
        Yomama69 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Exactly. And at the time of posting everything was 100% correct and now they are trying to do the right thing (finally) and clearly some customers are happy to just get what is owed to them and be quiet. That is fine, ultimately, this thread spurred customers/users getting what was owed to them and I am happy with that. Unfortunate that now they are hushing up so to speak but that is how some people are.
        Not everyone is willing to take up consumer advocacy.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        That comes straight from JRCART sir.

        I "heard" the bodywork cost is being "re-adjusted" so tell my why would that be taking place?

        Why would the insurance company be involved? That is not something pulled out of thin air, it is from directly speaking to Jim as well as texts.
        The insurance company is still involved because I asked them to keep the claim open because the paint work was not satisfactory. That is the only reason they are still involved in this matter. I posted an update here a few days ago saying things were for the most part cleared up and the final renining details should be handled this week before I fly back out there. I also posted a clarificstion on the Jalopnik page because there were a few things that were not quite accurate on that article. I don't mind people quoting me but make sure its the correct and current info befote doong so.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        The insurance company is still involved because I asked them to keep the claim open because the paint work was not satisfactory. That is the only reason they are still involved in this matter. I posted an update here a few days ago saying things were for the most part cleared up and the final renining details should be handled this week before I fly back out there. I also posted a clarificstion on the Jalopnik page because there were a few things that were not quite accurate on that article. I don't mind people quoting me but make sure its the correct and current info befote doong so.
        Any issues you have with Jalopnik as I stated feel free to take up with them to clarify whatever it is you wish to be clarified.

        As I said in my phone call to you, I wished to accurately report what was taking place which I stressed heavily and what was said about the insurance was based on your own comments to me. I understand your position on the insurance claim has shifted from a view of inflated cost to, with more documents being sent to you, one that believes the cost is accurate. I have updated the thread to reflect this change in the interest of accurately conveying information.

        The insurance issue is just one small part of this but even so I want that part to be correct. There was something about a chargeback with the insurance company that you mentioned but I have no idea where this is at and frankly it isn't even my concern. I just want to make it clear that what we have is correct and was correct at the time as you supported it at that time.

        I'm glad they are now taking care of you and I hope the remaining loose ends are tied up to your satisfaction Jim, glad we could help you.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Yomama69 Click here to enlarge
        Not everyone is willing to take up consumer advocacy.
        No, and even once you do, consumers won't necessarily support you the way you supported them.

        What matters is ultimately doing the right thing, and I believe I have. Hopefully everyone gets what is owed and I do wish Evosport the best and that this never happens again. Also, I hope the censorship that has taken place they learn from although this I doubt.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Jesus, LOL, please don't hang me because of all the typos in my last post typing from a phone.

        Please don't twist my words around. Everyone knows I am very vocal and I do not have a problem speaking my mind. The insurance company IS NOT still involved because of any insurance fraud reasons, they are still involved because the paint work done by evosport/their sub-contractor body shop was not to my satisfaction. IMO this part of the story is done.
      1. JBond's Avatar
        JBond -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        I think it is absolutely despicable (yet predicable) what is going on of late regarding this fiasco:

        Evosport and/or supporters (be that legal or otherwise) have just about succeeded in turning this story around 180 degrees to make them look like the victim. Shady (yet masterful) spin to say the least. If they end up going bust, they should definitely pursue a career in politics.

        Over the past week or so, it has become very clear that the veracity of the claims against Evosport have waned (not from Sticky though). I predicted that would be the case, and it is not surprising at all.
        It doesn't take a brilliant lawyer like Benz280SL to see that certain customers have been instructed to hush-up if they want to get the service/products they already paid for.

        Lest muppets like Benz280SL spew nonsensical legalese in response to this post: do yourself a favor and read this thread in its entirety. If you do so, you'll realize that everything Sticky purports has been verified by jrcart or others in the past. That those who are owed something by Evosport are not as 'vocal' as they were 1 week ago is inconsequential.
        This.

        Does anyone actually believe that Evosport is not telling people to shut their mouth's or parts won't get delivered to anyone?

        I'm intrigued by the about face that JRCART has done in this thread, by editing his posts on MBW and by commenting on Jalopnik in Evosports favor.

        http://jalopnik.com/#!5792464/mercedes-tuner-fights-online-forum-over-hundreds-of-thousands-of-dollars

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART1 on Jalopnik Click here to enlarge
        Hello, I am the JRCART mentioned in this article. I want to point out and clarify a few issues and inaccuracies I have with with the article. First off evosport has now delivered on pretty much everything they were contracted to on my vehicle. There are a couple of small misc small tidbits that need closure but for the most part they have now delivered on what was promised to me. I am flying out to California next Wednesday to meet with management and owners of evosport so we can finally put this to rest on move on.

        I personally do not have a problem with journalist or person posting factual information about a business regardless of if it appears"harmful" to the business. Consumers have the right to know the truth about a company or business. However, the key words in my previous sentence being FACTUAL INFORMATION. ALthough I can not comment on all the various details mentioned above becuase some of it does not pertain to me the article does have many mis-quoted or inconsistant FACTS about my(JRCART's) part of the story.

        Were there delays and problems with this project envolving evosport? Unfortunatley, Yes there were. Are those problems/delays spelled out accurately in the article above? No they are not. Please let me attempt to clarify. First of all the amount of the supercharger was not $30k, it was $15k, I contracted evosport to do alot of other work in addition to the super charger install, it was a much bigger project than just a SC install. The total of all that other work along with the supercharger totaled just over $32K. In addition to the supercharger install there was some slight body damage to the car as a result of a fender bender that I had evosport take care of. A claim was my to my insurance company as a result of the fender bender, some of the paint work done by evosport/their sub-contractor was not done to my satisfaction. The paint issue is one of the things that I am confident will be finalized on my visit next week. I have indeed contacted my insurance company but the work is being handled to my satisfaction so no further action should be required at this time. I also have indeed spoken to my attorney(2 attorneys actually) but now that evosport has pretty much delivered on everything promised there will be no need for my attorney to get involved or take any further action as I see it at this time. The way the above article was written makes it appear that there is pending legal action or a suit filed against evosport and that is NOT acccurate. I do not anticipate any suits being filed on my behalf becuase again, the vast majority of what evosport was contracted to do has now been delivered.

        Should anything change between now and my visit/meeting with evosport management next week I will let everyone know, but I don't anticipate any further problems or delays at this point. I had a long conference call last night with the evosport management and all parties involved are in agreement of what is happening moving forward.

        For those of you that know me or follow me on any of the auto forums you know I don't have any problem with speaking my mind so I don't need any 3rd parties speaking up for me, especially if it is not accurate information.

        I would like to also add that I have been dealing with evosport for over 3 years, they have done ALOT of work on my vehicle and up until this latest round of modifications everything went well, their quality was and still is top notch. Obviously there were some bumps in the road on this go round, it did leave a very bad taste in my mouth but I can still say they do good work. Hopefully they are working through the bumps and issues and deliver on any customer back orders and it appears they are. (Edit comment)
        Just to clarify that's not a clarification post, that's an update. The info reposted by Jalopnik originally posted by Sticky on this site was accurate when it was posted, and at that point you were looking for help from other MBW members to help bring the situation to light. So no, I guess not everyone on the net knows you don't need third parties help when you specifically ask for it. I was one of the people that posted on your behalf on MBW without even knowing you, I won't make that mistake again.

        Members and friends came to bat for you and now after you're taken care of, largely if not solely due to this thread and the support you were given, you just shrivel up and disappear like a grape drying on the vine.

        Just goes to show everyone's out for themselves I guess.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Please don't twist my words around. Everyone knows I am very vocal and I do not have a problem speaking my mind. The insurance company IS NOT still involved because of any insurance fraud reasons
        No one is twisting your words, no one said anything about fraud only a user coming out of nowhere did, and you are more than free to speak your mind.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        The insurance company IS NOT still involved because of any insurance fraud reasons, they are still involved because the paint work done by evosport/their sub-contractor body shop was not to my satisfaction. IMO this part of the story is done.
        Yes, and this is what we wanted to clarify as well as you stance changing from inflated costs to now accurate costs. It was implied earlier they were charging too much, and this has changed.

        I want to make it clear to protect myself as well as my reputation of reporting the events accurately. That is all, I agree, this is not a major issue and it is over with.