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    • Warning to Mercedes Enthusiasts! Evosport hundreds of thousands in debt, not delivering parts


      We have been sitting on this story for some time but enough is enough, something has to be said. We can not sit idly by while Evosport continues to take money from our users and not deliver parts. BenzBoost user JRCART is the latest person who Evosport has taken thousands from, in his case under the guise of delivering a Weistec supercharger for his CLK63 black series. We wish we could say he is the only person who has spent considerable money with Evosport only to not get what he paid for, but he isn't.

      Many of you know JRCART as Jim. A nice guy who has a CLK63 Black Series who has done considerable business with Evosport. Well, months ago, he paid Evosport over $30,000 for his Weistec supercharger only for the car to sit with nothing done to it. As a matter of fact, JRCART told us Evosport used this time period to charge something around $20,000 to JRCART's insurance company for front end damage. Not only were we told they took tens of thousands and did not deliver the product they promised, they decided to make money off JRCART's insurance company for bodywork repair whose cost was inflated. UPDATE Jim finally got so fed up with the empty promises after months he had his car taken out of Evosport this past week and taken to Wesitec.

      We called up Weistec to confirm this and they did confirm the car was now at their facility. We spoke to Steve at Weistec who was a complete professional. He was as politically correct as one can be and would not engage in any mudslinging and that is to be respected.

      Now JRCART and his Weistec supercharger fiasco with Evosport is just one piece of this puzzle. We mentioned hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, it turns out that a guy by the name of Jim Brady invested $300,000-$400,000 in Evosport. We believe these funds were used for Evosport's new facility and he is waiting on his return. Well, he is going to be waiting a heck of a long time and better get in line. On MBworld he posts as if nothing is wrong and who can blame him? He wants his money back and likely did not realize what he was getting himself into. This is a huge sum of money and we hope he gets it back.

      In addition to the now hundreds of thousands Evosport owes, they owe Powerchip a large outstanding balance. This was confirmed in a discussion with Powerchip representatives who did confirm the outstanding balance but would not say how much. We have heard rumors ranging up to $100,000 but now you can all see why Powerchip has the pull with Evosport that they do.

      Is this it? We wish, but it isn't. Evosport has an outstanding balance with Rotora. Wondering why you haven't received your Evosport rotors? Well, BimmerBoost user tgoss has been waiting months now for his rotors. He is going to be waiting indefinitely as we have been informed that Rotora supposedly suspended Evosport's account for an oustanding amount in the thousands. See a pattern here?

      This has to be it, right? Well, it isn't. Since Evosport started MBworld and it was purchased by Internet Brands they have been able to keep this all silenced on the site they control, MBworld, as well as other internet brands sites such as 6speedonline. Don't believe us? Look at this poor guy who has been waiting since October of 2010 for his parts: Evosport Parts The discussion was locked to help preserve Evosport's image. We contacted the poster and he got us in touch with his friend and still until today in April 2011, he has not received all his parts.

      Ok, that is all? Right? Can't be any more? Well, I referred my friend to Evosport who managed to talk him into a V10 twin turbo swap for his E92 M3. I tried to tell him that was a project that would have no end, but he did not listen. Evosport took the S65 V8 out of his M3 only to place it into Brads (one of Evosport's owners) father's race car. This car has been sitting in the shop collecting dust for years now with no end in sight but 10's of thousands taken.

      We actually could go on as there are users who have not received headers, pulleys, rotors, etc. There are some prominent individuals we have been told about who did not get their Evosport parts so the list goes on. Everyone in the Mercedes community must be made aware of this as on MBworld all of these details are deleted or removed to protect Evosport who does control MBworld.

      So is this all incredibly shady? Yes. But why? Why would they do this? Well, Evosport has moved into a very large new facility and it would seem they are funding it with their customers money. Now you must be saying, how can they survive this? Well, we don't know if they will. JRCART stated that when he picked up all his parts from Evosport Brad looked like he was about to cry. He must know the jig is up. If Jim Brady gets tired of sitting around he will have to go the legal route to get his money back. JRCART (Jim) is already getting his insurance company involved. If Powerchip and others all try to get their money at the same time Evosport is going to be in some major trouble. Our advice? Until all debts are repaid, stay away. That is unless you like waiting forever for parts from a company on very shaky ground.
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by P31-C63 Click here to enlarge
        the MBW kings and queensClick here to enlarge resurrected that mysterious thread that got deleted--I guess Easter's not as late as we thought this year.
        I even included a shameless plug for this "forbidden fruit" forum--I think it was done convoluted enough not to catch $hit from the tyrantsClick here to enlarge

        check it out if you want before they delete it againClick here to enlarge
        http://www.mbworld.org/forums/c63-am...eliveri-2.html
        Hahaha awesome, it's back! Just wondering why jacbos is getting all the credit for my work? Click here to enlarge

        This was a good post I had to put up here before it disappears:

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        Wow....speechless. I have no idea who jacob502 is, I have no idea how he got so much info about my situation since my camp has been pretty tight lipped about everything but I must say that the info is pretty much spot on, obviously someone with inside knowledge. I can say that evosport delivered on a small portion of the $32.5k was paid to them, my accountant attorneys and the insurance company will be comparing invoices to what was actually delivered then we will be submitting an ammended invoice to evosport demanding an immediate refund of any overages. To the best of my knowledge evosport has not paid Weistec for the SC yet even though evosport was paid several months ago for both the sc unit and the instal labor. Weistec installed the unit so they should have been paid already. That is between evosport and Weistec but I just hope Weistec gets paid soon. Once the accountants and attorneys give me an amount I am owed opefully evosport has the funds available to pay the refund or further legal actions will be pursued. As for the insurance portion, the Insurance company is handing all of that and they will take whatever actions they deem needed to get their money for any work that needs to be completed a 2nd time.

        In addition to that I have been contacted by 4 people in the past week or so that are awaiting parts from evosport, a couple of them have been waiting 6 months for parts that were paid in ful at time of order, they have demanded refunds but can not get them.

        That's it, I'm done commenting on this topic at this time.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Who is this MB-BOB clown?

        Generally, MBWorld Staff encourages sponsors to defend themselves, unless the negative opinions include TOU violations -- insulting language, name calling insults, etc. These can and will be moderated.

        Further, members chosing to copy verbatim comments made on other forums, and those who make multiple accusations across multiple threads against a sponsor here, may constitute "stalking" for the purpose of "harassment," both of which are prohibited by the TOU, and may be moderated on a case by case basis... this applies regardless of whom is being stalked. In short, civil complaining is fine, but vindictive stalking is not. Fair warning.
        BLOW ME
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MB-BOB Click here to enlarge
        Just because a customer has a beef with a seller doesn't mean it's so. Customers mess up products delivered in excellent shape and then try to pin it on the seller. This happens more often than you might think. Likewise, merchants sometimes run into bottlenecks in delivering products/services as well as they might like. Bottom line here is that with every argument (especially on the internet) there are always some elements of credibility and some measure of crap. Read this thread accordingly.
        Are you serious? Who made this guy admin? This isn't "beef" this is a potential bankruptcy situation with 100's of thousands at stake. Don't you get it?

        Frankly, if I were all these people who wanted their money I wouldn't just go after Evosport but MBworld/IB as well as not only do they have money but they are responsible in this for covering Evosport's ass for so long.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MB-BOB Click here to enlarge
        Evosport has always led the way in being open, forthcoming and proactive in handling complaints on this forum. Look throughout these forums over the years, and you will see this to be true.
        What planet do you live on?

        The only way you will see any of what you just wrote to be true is if you browse MBworld drunk AND high, with Brad's member in your mouth and Simon's in your hand.
      1. P31-C63's Avatar
        P31-C63 -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Who is this MB-BOB clown?



        BLOW ME

        Is this yelled in your best Mel Gibson impression?Click here to enlargeClick here to enlarge
        Don't know if you ever heard his crazy tapes of him berating his ex girlfriend or not, but this popped into my head when I read itClick here to enlarge

        If you haven't heard those tapes, they are funny and sad at the same time.
        "Just smile and BLOW ME."Click here to enlarge

      1. MHP LLC's Avatar
        MHP LLC -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        Are you serious? Who made this guy admin? This isn't "beef" this is a potential bankruptcy situation with 100's of thousands at stake. Don't you get it?

        Frankly, if I were all these people who wanted their money I wouldn't just go after Evosport but MBworld/IB as well as not only do they have money but they are responsible in this for covering Evosport's ass for so long.
        I couldn't believe his comments as I read them, my thoughts were the same, who the $#@! died and made this $#@! King?

        I also agree that IB should be held accountable in all future lawsuits directed towards evosport, as much as they try to state that they are separate entities the paperwork will show the connection--not that it's not blatantly obvious anyway.

        IB should be held accountable.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by MHP LLC Click here to enlarge
        I couldn't believe his comments as I read them, my thoughts were the same, who the $#@! died and made this $#@! King?

        I also agree that IB should be held accountable in all future lawsuits directed towards evosport, as much as they try to state that they are separate entities the paperwork will show the connection--not that it's not blatantly obvious anyway.

        IB should be held accountable.
        I could not agree more and would definitely nudge attorneys in this direction...
      1. dynomite05's Avatar
        dynomite05 -
        I am glad I found this site. $#@! over at MBW is getting ridiculous. They are really drunk with power. I hope everything goes a well as it can for you, Jim. What's funny is that Brad has not responded since the thread was reopened on MBW, but he's always lurking when I check the active thread viewers. Way not to run away and hide, Brad!
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by dynomite05 Click here to enlarge
        They are really drunk with power.
        And it has remained unchallenged for some time. That is over now, we are going to loosen their grip.
      1. Eirebenz's Avatar
        Eirebenz -
        As an aside, I was wondering what everyone's take was on using the Better Business Bureau (or similar agency) as a conduit for letting other enthusiasts know about any particular company's conduct?

        Out of habit, I have always looked at a company's BBB rating prior to doing any business with them. A cursory glance of Evosport's BBB rating shows them to have an A+ rating. That's an excellent rating (when apparently it shouldn't necessarily be that way).

        Perhaps I am somewhat naive as it pertains to the usefulness of the BBB - is it your feeling that the BBB is like CarFax in that such a report is not always a true reflection of things?

        In my experience, I have used the BBB four times to address consumer issues. On each and every occasion, the company in question contacted me directly and the issue was resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Of course, the consequences of a company not resolving an issue isn't that severe: they accrue enough infractions on BBB and their rating is hurt. However, if people don't use BBB, they don't know the company in question is 'damaged goods'.

        It would seem to me that using this approach might be appropriate with a company like Evosport. The reason I say that is because they seem like a company who prides themselves on public perception of their brand and reputation.
        If you do a quick internet search on complaints against Evosport, the web is absolutely littered with threads (over many, many years) with people making complaints. Interestingly, most of those threads also contain a somewhat coherent rebuttal from somebody at Evosport.

        Every Benz owner here has seen our fair share of Benz performance part companies go belly-up over the past number of years. Again and again, their ultimate downfall is often due to one angry whistleblower who finally does something about it (whether that be publicly posting in a popular forum or otherwise.). Unfortunately and frustratingly, this only happens after many people have been scammed / taken in some way.

        For a variety of reasons that we need not get into here, many customers are just not willing to 'rock the boat' when it comes to calling out vendors that don't behave. As a result, more and more customers suffer.
        Surely there is a better way to protect car enthusiasts from disreputable entities?

        Perhaps, as an up-and-coming car enthusiast forum, BenzBoost could address this issue? (something no other car enthusiast forum does properly).
        It doesn't have to be something that degenerates into a 'name and shame' situation - just a way for car enthusiasts to see which companies have problems and which companies at least attempt to resolve those problems.
      1. MiamiAMG's Avatar
        MiamiAMG -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        As an aside, I was wondering what everyone's take was on using the Better Business Bureau (or similar agency) as a conduit for letting other enthusiasts know about any particular company's conduct?

        Out of habit, I have always looked at a company's BBB rating prior to doing any business with them. A cursory glance of Evosport's BBB rating shows them to have an A+ rating. That's an excellent rating (when apparently it shouldn't necessarily be that way).

        Perhaps I am somewhat naive as it pertains to the usefulness of the BBB - is it your feeling that the BBB is like CarFax in that such a report is not always a true reflection of things?

        In my experience, I have used the BBB four times to address consumer issues. On each and every occasion, the company in question contacted me directly and the issue was resolved to everyone's satisfaction. Of course, the consequences of a company not resolving an issue isn't that severe: they accrue enough infractions on BBB and their rating is hurt. However, if people don't use BBB, they don't know the company in question is 'damaged goods'.

        It would seem to me that using this approach might be appropriate with a company like Evosport. The reason I say that is because they seem like a company who prides themselves on public perception of their brand and reputation.
        If you do a quick internet search on complaints against Evosport, the web is absolutely littered with threads (over many, many years) with people making complaints. Interestingly, most of those threads also contain a somewhat coherent rebuttal from somebody at Evosport.

        Everyone Benz owner here has seen our fair share of Benz performance part companies go belly-up over the past number of years. Again and again, their ultimate downfall is often due to one angry whistleblower who finally does something about it (whether that be publicly posting in a popular forum or otherwise.). Unfortunately and frustratingly, this only happens after many people have been scammed / taken in some way.

        For a variety of reasons that we need not get into here, many customers are just not willing to 'rock the boat' when it comes to calling out vendors that don't behave. As a result, more and more customers suffer.
        Surely there is a better way to protect car enthusiasts from disreputable entities?

        Perhaps, as an up-and-coming car enthusiast forum, BenzBoost could address this issue? (something no other car enthusiast forum does properly).
        It doesn't have to be something that degenerates into a 'name and shame' situation - just a way for car enthusiasts to see which companies have problems and which companies at least attempt to resolve those problems.
        Great post! I agree 100%
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        Perhaps I am somewhat naive as it pertains to the usefulness of the BBB - is it your feeling that the BBB is like CarFax in that such a report is not always a true reflection of things?
        Well, there are people on both sides of this argument. I have seen BBB ratings manipulated. Hate to use RMS as an example, but they are the best one I can think of. They had an F rating and then filed for bankruptcy. The company came back under the name Dream Machine and now has an A rating. Well, people looking at the rating wouldn't know the name changed and now it is an A.

        I have also seen another BMW company I won't name quickly bump their rating up. The BBB has its pluses and minuses but is another channel worth exploring.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Eirebenz Click here to enlarge
        Perhaps, as an up-and-coming car enthusiast forum, BenzBoost could address this issue? (something no other car enthusiast forum does properly).
        It doesn't have to be something that degenerates into a 'name and shame' situation - just a way for car enthusiasts to see which companies have problems and which companies at least attempt to resolve those problems.
        We are all about the user/enthusiast and protecting them, not protecting vendors. What would you suggest?

        I mean we could organize a complaint to the BBB perhaps or make them aware but that would require a degree of cohesiveness.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Would someone please set these guys straight that I made the post here and it was copy and pasted, not this Jacob guy, and that it originated somewhere else (benzboost)? Thanks: http://www.mbworld.org/forums/4610397-post103.html
      1. anon995's Avatar
        anon995 -
        Evosport does not make their rotors at all period ... found out rotora makes the actual discs and the hats are made by RSS (sister company of GiroRotor).

        They just etch their name on it and call it "their product". Even by private labelling standards that's ridic.

        Btw ... I am hearing rumors that another company will come to the rescue and provide the rotors if/when Evosport goes bust soon.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by anon995 Click here to enlarge
        Btw ... I am hearing rumors that another company will come to the rescue and provide the rotors if/when Evosport goes bust soon.
        If Evosport goes bust it will create a lot of problems. I am hearing rumors there are more investors involved, don't have the info to substantiate it yet though.
      1. DarkPhantom's Avatar
        DarkPhantom -
        Whoa, I can already see where this is headed. Hopefully some juicy details emerge Click here to enlarge
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by DarkPhantom Click here to enlarge
        Whoa, I can already see where this is headed. Hopefully some juicy details emerge Click here to enlarge
        I don't really know much juicier it can get...
      1. MHP LLC's Avatar
        MHP LLC -
        The hits just keep on coming apparently. Another: Wow.
      1. JBond's Avatar
        JBond -
        Check out this beauty, one of the claimed investors throws out a veiled threat at the end of his post about civil court rulings abt reputation cases. Unfortunately you have to be able to prove a loss in profit and from the looks of it that hasn't been happening for some time now, so good luck with that. Weaknut reply to keep other members with evosport issues mouths shut.

        Your bad for not doing the diligence on your investment, don't try and turn it on the customers just because your money is allegedly at stake.

        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JBrady Click here to enlarge
        Originally Posted by Jim Brady Click here to enlarge
        Nearly one-third of the employees of automotive businesses in California are out of work because their employers are out of business or bankrupt. How many car dealers store fronts are vacant! I counted four on Whittier Blvd in SoCal in a 2 miles last week.

        We forget how many homes are lost and foreclosed and think there is no ripple effect!

        Brad and Simon are stand up guys and they survived the worst recession in 70 years in a business that for the most part is discretionary money and recreational fun for most of us. They will make good because they have character and have support from business people who know that quality and character count, unlike many who want to throw them under the bus without the facts or having a dog in the fight.

        Let me tell you what a tragedy is. In 2009 Chrysler Corporation agreed to settle a claim for $4 million dollars (sounds like a lot) but when you're a 34 year old female and a C3 quadriplegic after medical and cost gets you an barely enough to survive on for the rest of your life in a wheel chair. Oh, BTW, she didn't get $4 million, Chrysler declared bankruptcy and she got zero!!. Just like all the suppliers, machine shops and family business they got zero!! All nice and legal.

        It's amazing how often people jump on the band wagon without knowing all the facts while defaming business with a keyboard in their parents basement. That's why the civil recoveries are so high in reputation cases.
        Jimmy is out.



      1. JBond's Avatar
        JBond -
        Also as pointed out earlier in this thread or another like it, you can simply search the net and form your own opinion of evosport within minutes--even from your parents basement. Click here to enlarge