• Warning to Mercedes Enthusiasts! Evosport hundreds of thousands in debt, not delivering parts


      We have been sitting on this story for some time but enough is enough, something has to be said. We can not sit idly by while Evosport continues to take money from our users and not deliver parts. BenzBoost user JRCART is the latest person who Evosport has taken thousands from, in his case under the guise of delivering a Weistec supercharger for his CLK63 black series. We wish we could say he is the only person who has spent considerable money with Evosport only to not get what he paid for, but he isn't.

      Many of you know JRCART as Jim. A nice guy who has a CLK63 Black Series who has done considerable business with Evosport. Well, months ago, he paid Evosport over $30,000 for his Weistec supercharger only for the car to sit with nothing done to it. As a matter of fact, JRCART told us Evosport used this time period to charge something around $20,000 to JRCART's insurance company for front end damage. Not only were we told they took tens of thousands and did not deliver the product they promised, they decided to make money off JRCART's insurance company for bodywork repair whose cost was inflated. UPDATE Jim finally got so fed up with the empty promises after months he had his car taken out of Evosport this past week and taken to Wesitec.

      We called up Weistec to confirm this and they did confirm the car was now at their facility. We spoke to Steve at Weistec who was a complete professional. He was as politically correct as one can be and would not engage in any mudslinging and that is to be respected.

      Now JRCART and his Weistec supercharger fiasco with Evosport is just one piece of this puzzle. We mentioned hundreds of thousands of dollars. Well, it turns out that a guy by the name of Jim Brady invested $300,000-$400,000 in Evosport. We believe these funds were used for Evosport's new facility and he is waiting on his return. Well, he is going to be waiting a heck of a long time and better get in line. On MBworld he posts as if nothing is wrong and who can blame him? He wants his money back and likely did not realize what he was getting himself into. This is a huge sum of money and we hope he gets it back.

      In addition to the now hundreds of thousands Evosport owes, they owe Powerchip a large outstanding balance. This was confirmed in a discussion with Powerchip representatives who did confirm the outstanding balance but would not say how much. We have heard rumors ranging up to $100,000 but now you can all see why Powerchip has the pull with Evosport that they do.

      Is this it? We wish, but it isn't. Evosport has an outstanding balance with Rotora. Wondering why you haven't received your Evosport rotors? Well, BimmerBoost user tgoss has been waiting months now for his rotors. He is going to be waiting indefinitely as we have been informed that Rotora supposedly suspended Evosport's account for an oustanding amount in the thousands. See a pattern here?

      This has to be it, right? Well, it isn't. Since Evosport started MBworld and it was purchased by Internet Brands they have been able to keep this all silenced on the site they control, MBworld, as well as other internet brands sites such as 6speedonline. Don't believe us? Look at this poor guy who has been waiting since October of 2010 for his parts: Evosport Parts The discussion was locked to help preserve Evosport's image. We contacted the poster and he got us in touch with his friend and still until today in April 2011, he has not received all his parts.

      Ok, that is all? Right? Can't be any more? Well, I referred my friend to Evosport who managed to talk him into a V10 twin turbo swap for his E92 M3. I tried to tell him that was a project that would have no end, but he did not listen. Evosport took the S65 V8 out of his M3 only to place it into Brads (one of Evosport's owners) father's race car. This car has been sitting in the shop collecting dust for years now with no end in sight but 10's of thousands taken.

      We actually could go on as there are users who have not received headers, pulleys, rotors, etc. There are some prominent individuals we have been told about who did not get their Evosport parts so the list goes on. Everyone in the Mercedes community must be made aware of this as on MBworld all of these details are deleted or removed to protect Evosport who does control MBworld.

      So is this all incredibly shady? Yes. But why? Why would they do this? Well, Evosport has moved into a very large new facility and it would seem they are funding it with their customers money. Now you must be saying, how can they survive this? Well, we don't know if they will. JRCART stated that when he picked up all his parts from Evosport Brad looked like he was about to cry. He must know the jig is up. If Jim Brady gets tired of sitting around he will have to go the legal route to get his money back. JRCART (Jim) is already getting his insurance company involved. If Powerchip and others all try to get their money at the same time Evosport is going to be in some major trouble. Our advice? Until all debts are repaid, stay away. That is unless you like waiting forever for parts from a company on very shaky ground.
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      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Also, if you guys want to share this story on MBworld just use a shortened link like this one: http://is.gd/EBZSdT

        That will link to here and it will take them a while to censor at which point another link with a url shortener can be created. So don't worry about the censorship.
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GLK4matic Click here to enlarge
        Now that Evosport has admitted to their issues
        They have? Where and when?
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by JRCART Click here to enlarge
        They have? Where and when?
        He is saying they essentially admit them in their documents. They have not publicly taken any responsibility or admitted any wrongdoings, instead choosing to try to keep things quiet.
      1. GLK4matic's Avatar
        GLK4matic -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        He is saying they essentially admit them in their documents. They have not publicly taken any responsibility or admitted any wrongdoings, instead choosing to try to keep things quiet.
        Yes that is what I meant.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        He is saying they essentially admit them in their documents. They have not publicly taken any responsibility or admitted any wrongdoings, instead choosing to try to keep things quiet.
        They haven't admitted to any wrongdoing per se. I think their perceived business practices are what everyone is up in arms about. But, they haven't shared that with anyone either - although the writing seems to be on the proverbial wall...
        The only thing they have admitted to is 1) dropping the ball on Jim's build, 2) that is was not a normal blower install and 3) there was "substantial" damage to the front clip. Many called those three excuses exactly that - excuses. Personally I think 5 months is enough time to build just about anything given the proper resources - but apparently their (Evosports) resources are, and have been, quite limited due to a financial/cash flow crunch. But then why take someone's money when you can't deliver ON TIME ??? That is the problem I have with the automotive industry coming from a racing background - nothing is EVER done on time.

        Personally, I think the way all this has been handled by the mods on MBW has made it even worse. The phrase, "no sense in defusing a bomb that has already gone off" could be their thinking.....but coming forward, making a public statement and trying to clean up the mess as well as salvage their reputation is something they should think long and hard about it. Or perhaps the damage has been done and nothing will make any difference. They have said in the past that they really don't make much money off these boards. I find that interesting considering the docs above show these boards as their number one source of marketing and revenues. Click here to enlarge So - something tells me that making a statement and attempting a totally transparent resolution to these "issues" would be in their best interest. Especially considering the number of views here.
      1. anon995's Avatar
        anon995 -
        btw ... in those official documents provided ... look how going back over the last 5 years of income they all have "unaudited" written next to them. Basically they are admitting they are unverified numbers.

        P.S. Rotora & RSS make their rotors, so if another company can become distributors they can sell the same sets for lower price I'm sure.
      1. Barfly's Avatar
        Barfly -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        They haven't admitted to any wrongdoing per se. I think their perceived business practices are what everyone is up in arms about. But, they haven't shared that with anyone either - although the writing seems to be on the proverbial wall...
        The only thing they have admitted to is 1) dropping the ball on Jim's build, 2) that is was not a normal blower install and 3) there was "substantial" damage to the front clip. Many called those three excuses exactly that - excuses. Personally I think 5 months is enough time to build just about anything given the proper resources - but apparently their (Evosports) resources are, and have been, quite limited due to a financial/cash flow crunch. But then why take someone's money when you can't deliver ON TIME ??? That is the problem I have with the automotive industry coming from a racing background - nothing is EVER done on time.

        Personally, I think the way all this has been handled by the mods on MBW has made it even worse. The phrase, "no sense in defusing a bomb that has already gone off" could be their thinking.....but coming forward, making a public statement and trying to clean up the mess as well as salvage their reputation is something they should think long and hard about it. Or perhaps the damage has been done and nothing will make any difference. They have said in the past that they really don't make much money off these boards. I find that interesting considering the docs above show these boards as their number one source of marketing and revenues. Click here to enlarge So - something tells me that making a statement and attempting a totally transparent resolution to these "issues" would be in their best interest. Especially considering the number of views here.
        MBW is a money pit for Evosport, without it I doubt they would've gotten off the ground at all. Removing it from their tyrannical control at this point would be also be devastating to them. Too bad they run the site like a pissed off child, they deserve to have it yanked from their control.
      1. LZH's Avatar
        LZH -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        MBW is a money pit for Evosport, without it I doubt they would've gotten off the ground at all. Removing it from their tyrannical control at this point would be also be devastating to them. Too bad they run the site like a pissed off child, they deserve to have it yanked from their control.
        I agree on all points. That "sticky" reassignment thread over there in the C63 forum would seem to indicate that something is going on...to what extent remains to be seen.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        Personally, I think the way all this has been handled by the mods on MBW has made it even worse. The phrase, "no sense in defusing a bomb that has already gone off" could be their thinking.....but coming forward, making a public statement and trying to clean up the mess as well as salvage their reputation is something they should think long and hard about it. Or perhaps the damage has been done and nothing will make any difference. They have said in the past that they really don't make much money off these boards. I find that interesting considering the docs above show these boards as their number one source of marketing and revenues. Click here to enlarge So - something tells me that making a statement and attempting a totally transparent resolution to these "issues" would be in their best interest. Especially considering the number of views here.
        They put incredible emphasis on the boards. How can they claim not to? If it wasn't so important why would they censor/close/delete/ban anything that may bring this issue to light? Why would they ban links to sites not under their direct control? Why would they edit and delete PM's as many users have stated has been taking place? It isn't even just with this issue, pretty much anything in the past that would portray Evosport negatively would be handled in a very similar manner. Clearly they take the boards very seriously and monitor them very closely.

        I think you are correct, a transparent resolution would be best but they have already dug themselves a hole. They are going to try to continue going down the route of keeping things quiet on MBworld and it would not surprise me in the least if they attempted to stoop so low as to try to stop everyone from talking about it even in other places. It's too late for that, they continue to mis-manage this situation.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by LZH Click here to enlarge
        I agree on all points. That "sticky" reassignment thread over there in the C63 forum would seem to indicate that something is going on...to what extent remains to be seen.
        Something is definitely going on but it seems Evosport still has a strong grip as any threads on this topic are closed or delete. Yes, despite Brad saying that would not take place.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Barfly Click here to enlarge
        MBW is a money pit for Evosport, without it I doubt they would've gotten off the ground at all. Removing it from their tyrannical control at this point would be also be devastating to them. Too bad they run the site like a pissed off child, they deserve to have it yanked from their control.
        If they lose control or not is irrelevant as the answer really is to create an alternative that is not and never has been under their influence. MBW is broken beyond repair, there is no fixing it. These boards serve as the primary source of info on the topic of Mercedes/Tuning for a lot of people and they are taken very seriously by companies. IB has made their millions using these boards. MBW and Evosport clearly feel threatened and exposed at the moment, like they never have before.

        Things are really being shaken up and it is to the enthusiasts benefit... finally.
      1. nielsll's Avatar
        nielsll -
        ?
      1. JRCART's Avatar
        JRCART -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nielsll Click here to enlarge
        ?
        ? LOL Lou, I don't understand your code
      1. nielsll's Avatar
        nielsll -
        No code . Seeing impact on rep points
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by nielsll Click here to enlarge
        No code . Seeing impact on rep points
        Not the place to be testing.
      1. GENTANI's Avatar
        GENTANI -
        screw these sponsors that play with member's money...i hope no investor touches that place and they implode with of course resolution to those members that have outstanding tabs
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by GENTANI Click here to enlarge
        screw these sponsors that play with member's money...i hope no investor touches that place and they implode with of course resolution to those members that have outstanding tabs
        They certainly should not be protected and just keep trying to sweep this under the rug, it's ridiculous. It just shows their arrogance, they think they can play with peoples money and stall for months on end? It's absurd.
      1. cturbos's Avatar
        cturbos -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by blkclk550 Click here to enlarge
        not vinny ten, there was a company about 4 years ago that used to steal parts from costumers cars, or claim they installed but never did.
        VTR=VRP.
      1. Sticky's Avatar
        Sticky -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by cturbos Click here to enlarge
        VTR=VRP.
        What is VTR?
      1. cturbos's Avatar
        cturbos -
        Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Sticky Click here to enlarge
        What is VTR?
        i think he mitaken the name.
        VTR is a british car company.(used to be anyway,it belong`s to a russian kid now).