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Not sure if this debate is still going on. I agree with everything the folks have said here in regards to the m3. I will add however the parts the OP put on the 335 do not come close. 85 percent of the m3 has different parts than the 335. Some notable stuff is chassis stiffness, extra reinforcements, bracing and stiffness which is a huge part of its ability to handle as well as it does. Its not just the bolt on stuff like shocks etc. It has much beefier strut tower braces, again a big reason for handling. Weight is 3550-3600 btw Hood is aluminum. S65 is shorter and further back in the engine bay making weight distribution better. Mdct is a lot different than the dct in the 335is Subframes themselves are stronger, lighter and have other components that you did not add. Unsprung weight in lighter subframes, lighter wheels and lighter suspension parts is a huge benefit in handling with lower unsprung weight. Carbon fiber roof on the M3 coupe- 60 pounds less weight than the sunroof 335is on the heighest point of the car. M3 seats are the best in any bmw and way better. M3 steering is heavier and the steering rack and ratio is sportier and takes less turning to move the car-less lock to lock and more direct feeling. Really you made a car that is not even close. Not even a good try to be honest. And you "will let it go for 80k"? LOL that is just some hilarious shit Flat paneled underbody really helps reduce lift and stability at high speeds This is just off the top of my head. Its odd the OP replaced the driveshaft. There is no benefit to what you did with that. Even a carbon fiber driveshaft that is much lighter actually makes almost zero difference in performance

Been there... done that... got banned... now here and much happier.

Lambo is a panty dropper, no doubt about it. When I was out at Exotic racing, the women were only looking at the Aventador and a few Ferrari's, nobody cared about the Porsche/GTR/Jag/Corvette.

IDK about those rims but otherwise it looks awesome and sounds like it wants to rip your ears off

detailors domain was/is having a sale phil is great to deal with :handgestures-thumb:

Another thing before I forget is women appreciate sound. My wife loves a good sounding car. She loves the way her G35 sounds and appreciates it for what it is. Imagine a Superleggera something that sounds, exotic with a Tubi. Maddness.

Because most Ferrari's, minus the 458, the 360, and the F430 which are pretty much the most commonly seen. Most women have no idea what they are. I kind of take that back though, women do care about Ferrari's but you're guarantted to have more men approach you than women with a Ferrari. I've seen a quite a few F355's and every time a women just checks her phone or moves on with out looking at it. Lamborghini's on the other hand, ha, there is nothing subtle about the Lamborghini's. Another car that gets a lot of looks from women. The R8. They appreciate the lines of the R8. Watch this video.

Yes, it does.

Now do 530+ wheel torque for the M3 at 85000 rpm.

I don't know, I think women care if it is a Ferrari. If women care if it is Lamborghini why not a Ferrari? A 911 doesn't work? I think there is no set standard here it completely depends on the girl. A hot car doesn't hurt. Porsche, Ferrari, or Lambo.

No 911's don't work. I have tried. You'll get more looks more than likely, in a Boxster spyder than a 911. A guy on Fchat, posted up a long long read about Ferrari's and picking up women. Either Fchat or 6speed can't remember now. But he owned a F355 and posted good read about picking up women. But basically said, no women don't care.

MONSTER!! looks and sounds mean :music-rockout:

Disagree, it can be any new 911 really. Why wouldn't the women drool over a Ferrari?

I'm digging this car more and more. Cool vids, a little slow paced. Guy has an interesting style though.

My wife and I were talking about this the other day. I've owned 3 somewhat nice cars I guess. My Red 350Z, black 370Z, and black M3. Now the M3 beleive it or not was the most expensive out of all of them. No matter, what though, the 350Z got the most looks hands down. I'm talking from females and males. It has nothing to do with the badge when it comes to women, it's all the looks of the cars. Women can appreciate a great looking car. Women actually hate BMW's I have come to find out. If they drive one, well they do it because they like BMW's. But the majority of women, actually do not like BMW's. My 370Z got a lot of looks. Males and females have commented on it. Most women wouldn't tell me it's a nice car but would tell my wife it is. I guess not to give me a big head about it. The M3 though, I have had one person honestly comment about the car because he knew what it was . Even left a note on it the next morning saying "exquisite M3". I was like awesome, cool, nice guy and I saw him the following morning and come to find out, his wife has an E46 M3 as well. Although my cars don't get me stares, my wife's G35 has been approached by many. I was approached one day by a lady at the gas pumps and she said nice car, how do you like your Infiniti? I was kind of shocked, but yes lady's love the Infiniti's. Women appreciate cars as well but they're different than men. Women will not approach you and say nice car but they are thinking "damn that's a nice car". It really takes some special to get a women's attention. 911's won't cut it with most women unless it's a GT2 or GT3 (also my favorite), a Corvette might get you the really older women, a Viper would get you someone in their young 20's, a Ferrari will not get you anything I have come to learn, and a Lamborghini gets you anything you want. Drive a Lamborghini, preferably a Murcielago or the newer Superleggera, park it outside a starbucks but close to you, and watch how many women drool. I actually saw this first hand and was like "OMG, I need a Lamborghini", not to pick up girls, no sir, I'm a married man, but for the ha, that's my Lamborghini fun factor. Disclaimer: I am not cocky nor do I need to have someone approach me in my BMW M3 to feel good about myself. I am not some rich douche bag, in fact not rich at all, so just an ordinary person who enjoys the curves of automobiles. So if you happen to see a white Superleggera, white 911 GT2, or black 911 GT3 parked outside your local starbucks, just approach and I will be courteous and not unwanting.

Just cost, that's it. You don't have to wait 8 years for hardware updates...

Yea, that's seriously one of my major complaints. Why even act like it's worth the process of buying the game disc ? The game is tied to the xbox live account so as stated, even if they leave the game at your house, you still can't play it without their login. Which begs the question ... How far they'll go to ensure the owner is really there signing in ? Kinect checking the visuals in the room ? Cloud stored voice recognition ? And NO I didn't know that ! Where has that been confirmed ? Polygon ? I haven't read their article but, I thought they were being hush hush on that issue until E3. If so, it's unbelievable the lengths they'll go to suck every bit of profit available. You would think Frank White ran MS. Yea, i've actually been looking into what it takes to have a good gaming rig. I've never played computer exclusive games or cross platform games for pc/mac. I've severely ignorant to what hardware/software is necessary, what's a waste, and why. The most i've done is download some emulators ( nes, snes, genesis, ps1 ) and play here and there whenever i'm bored ( I use my dusty ps2 controller lol ). All I know is comps have WAY better graphics. Not sure of the real drawbacks, if any. Time to start researching more.